Comments on: Rolex, Panerai and The Nazis https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis Fully Independent Watch Website Mon, 08 May 2023 03:42:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Luthor. https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-19450 Mon, 08 May 2023 03:42:03 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-19450 So Rolex are Nazi collaborators by providing unbranded watch parts to save a fellow watchmaker’s life, and thus, they are complicit in the murder of 12 million people.

If you were reaching any further, you’d be touching the damn sun.

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By: Anonymous https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-1320 Sat, 27 Jun 2020 10:15:12 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-1320 This would only make Panerai and Rolex that much better.

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By: Colin https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-582 Fri, 06 Mar 2020 12:09:02 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-582 Great article! I find it very frustrating to see some of the Swiss watch brands, and revived German brands, take a revisionist view on their own history.

IWC for example currently have a range of “Spitfire” watches, and while they did provide some watches to the British military, they were also one of the largest suppliers to the Luftwaffe.

Most of these arrangements continued late into the war, when Nazi war crimes were common knowledge. Were some of the sales made under protest or duress? I’m sure there was an element of that; but clearly Rolex was able to say no with no repercussions others than financial.

Of the “dirty dozen” brands that supplied the British most were also able to keep their noses clean and their businesses afloat.

If you made and a knife knowing the buyer had the intention to use it to murder someone you would be guilty of being an accomplice to the crime. The watches were used as tools to commit war crimes.

For me, they just need to acknowledge their past, do something positive to atone, and move on. As you’ve identified, they’ve skipped the first two steps and just moved on.

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By: Robert Farago https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-581 Fri, 06 Mar 2020 04:19:43 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-581 In reply to Questionator.

Then make a contribution to some other charity. The key is to generate some good karma from a bad decision, no matter who was originally responsible or what their motives.

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By: Questionator https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-580 Fri, 06 Mar 2020 03:47:13 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-580 How would one make amends with people that are harboring second and third generation grudges over events that are often fictitious?

Paying these people off has been done over and over, and it only makes them greedier and more vindictive. No amount will please them.

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By: Robert Farago https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-568 Wed, 04 Mar 2020 13:38:56 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-568 In reply to Marcus Xavier Fry.

Thanks for the feedback.

The article presents two views of Rolex and Panerai’s collaboration with the Nazis: the official line (it couldn’t be helped) and the unofficial (they had a choice). There’s no way of knowing whether or not the two companies were willing or unwilling partners. But neither participant can claim ignorance.

My father was a Holocaust survivor. The Nazis murdered most of my extended family, including both grandparents. So my bias may come through strongly. But I certainly don’t think Panerai should have remade the Nazi-era watches. That was strictly optional and totally offensive – unless they used the money to make amends.

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By: Marcus Xavier Fry https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/2020/03/rolex-panerai-and-the-nazis/#comment-566 Wed, 04 Mar 2020 09:10:29 +0000 https://thetruthaboutwatches.com/?p=3315#comment-566 I think the article is a little harsh. I am NOT defending Nazism one iota, but I think it is a historical mistake to not fully take into account, or even worse assume the intent, motives, pressures, and conditions of the time.

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